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January 05, 2010

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Jeff

How exciting! Many thanks for your comment. I agree that these two items sound like they are very likely related. Your addition of the word “Siesta” helped me turn up this news item, which, while thirty years later, places Tadmore Siesta No. 77 at a picnic in Reading, PA: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=J70hAAAAIBAJ&sjid=tJwFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2298%2C4608400. It also confirms that this was a Knights of Malta side degree. I’m sure with some more digging (offline and on) I can probably come up with more that will help confirm that the women in the photo were members of Princes of Bagdad, K. of M. Tadmore Siesta, No. 77. Thanks again for writing and helping us get a lot closer to solving this mystery!

-Jeff

Samuel Gruber

We have a new item in the Plastics Collection at Syracuse University that may be linked. It is celluloid a pin cushion on which is inscribed in Old English script "Princes of Bagdad, K. of M. Tadmore Siesta, No. 77." Here was have the Tadmore 77 (with an e), on an object used by women, and associated with the Princes of Bagdad, K. of M. (presumably Knights of Malta?). The piece was manufactured by Whitehead & Hoag of Newark, NJ (founded 1892), almost certainly before WWI. I would be happy to learn more about this item
--- Sameul D. Gruber, Curator, Plastics Collection, Syracuse university.

Amy Hussey

I'm glad I can help in any way. I'm not sure about the history of LOS because I'm not a member, but they do wear the fezzes.

Very interesting blog, by the way. I forgot what I was searching for, but I found this through a google search on something Masonic related.

Amy

Jeff

Hi Amy.

Thanks for your thoughts - especially for the reminder that women do wear fez. The LOS avenue seems like a good one, although the dates and location still don't quite add up. Tadmor Shrine in OH wasn't chartered until 1925. A few Shrines were founded in 1877, including Syria Temple in Pittsburgh. Still, it doesn't all quite add up - especially that Tadmore with an "e" at the end. Still, your thoughts are helpful and any tip helps! Thanks for writing.

Jeff

gamerchick02

These ladies are probably Ladies Oriental Shrine (LOS) members (http://www.ladiesorientalshrine.org/). They wear fezzes and long dresses like this.

I do not know how old LOS is, but I think it's older than Daughters of the Nile (which I am a member of).

Hope I've helped solve a little mystery...

Amy

Jeff

Many thanks for your thoughts on this postcard. Your thoughts are similar to ones I had when I first looked at it. Here's why I eventually ruled out the possibility of a connection to the Shrine, specifically in Akron.

Because the fez is such a familiar badge of the Shriners, this was my first avenue of research, but none of it quite added up. First, it would be highly unusual for women to be wearing fezzes, even if this were a Shrine event. Secondly, the Tadmor Shrine in Akron wasn't chartered until 1925 and it appears from the visual evidence on these postcards that this photo is likely from the teens and potentially from the Reading, PA area. It also appears that the Tadmor Temple in Akron has always spelled their name without the final "e." And, finally, there have been, in fact, a number of groups that wore fezzes, not just the Shriners.

You're correct, of course, that Tadmore is a biblical reference and there is certainly no shortage of biblical references - especially related to Solomon - within Freemasonry, so that remains tantalizingly suggestive.

Again, thanks for your thoughts on this!

- Jeff

Kerry

I think the ladies pictured in their Fezzes may be Shriners.

There's a Tadmor Shrine Temple in Akron Ohio, founded I think in the 1870s. Could the "77" refer to 1877?
Has the spelling changed from Tadmore to Tadmor (now)?
"Tadmore" is a biblical reference to a city build by Solomon in the 10th century BC.(Second Book of Chronicles 8:4)

Are the ladies nurses at the Shriners Hospital (founded 1922),or perhaps they're family members attending a fundraiser for the Hospital's foundation and representing Tadmore?

All musings on my part, and I hope some of it helps

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